I liked watching this video. This Abbot say interesting things, but I think he was a kind of unfair when he said Benedict XVI has a nostalgy of the past and he would be trying to build a archeological model of liturgy. I found that opinion was unfair for many reasons. I’m going to mention some of then. Pope Beneditc used to pray his public masses as Pontifice in vernacular language and why that he was very criticized by the tradicionalist. (And even in private we haven’ Benedict XVI wasn’t a nostalgist for the past. He was just trying to bring back good things of the liturgy that had been forgotten.
About Pope Francis, he has a clearly different liturgical style (his style is very common in Latin America. When I see his masses I feel as if I stayed in my parish.) But he is not against the tradicional liturgy. So that he decided to have Mons. Guido Marine as his liturgical master of cerimonies.
Just for finishing my thoughts.
And also Pope Francis is not against the Tridentine Rite. I saw in somewhere, I don’t remember exactly where, Pope Francis said he is keeping his liturgical style as a personal coherence, because he said everyone who had known him in Buenos Aires would mock of him if they see him praying the mass in other style that he used to celebrate the mass. And he wants to be coherent with hilmself.
P.S.: If Fr. Angelo allows me, I would like to share an review very interesting about the holy comunion. I think it expresses very well the teachings of the Church. I thinking of “Review of Dominus Est by Manfred Hauke”
I liked the video and what the Abbot had to say about the two Popes. I wish that what these two Popes teach and promote would trickle down to the parish church. As far as Pope Benedict promoting Art and music in the liturgy or churches, I haven’t seen any influence of this. The churches in my area lack art and the music
is, well how can I put this, childish and immature. Now that Pope Benedict is no longer Pope I wonder if art and music will still be important. I have been to every Catholicin my area and the atmosphere on the church is the same. They do not promote the sacred and
I have a very hard time attending
One more time I agree with John. I would like that in my parish the sacred art and the sacred music, like Gregorian chant, might be present. In my city, popular sacred songs are very dominant, but they aren’t so beautiful as the Gregoriant chant! We can’t deny that the beauty of liturgy is a strong help for elevate our spirit to God. That Abbot, if I’m not wrong, he is a Cistercian monk, he is from the Cistercian Order. The Cistercian like the simplicity in their liturgy, different the Benedictines monk that like a liturgy more solemn.
It is all about the right atmosphere. We don’t have to go back
to the Middle Ages to create a sacred place but we can learn
from the past and adapt it to our times. I really don’t know how to
discribe the sacred places we call churches today. I’m not the only
one to say this. I hear it from others too. I know that the church is
the people and maybe I am wrong about atmophere but I don’t feel that
I am. I can be walking in the woods and feel that I am in the presence
of the Divine. I can sit in my living room and feel the Divine but when
I go to the churches of today I don’t feel the Divine. There is nothing
to make a person who enters this “sacred place”, to be humble and know they
are in God’s presence. Maybe I am old fashion. I love the chants but there
is a way to make music sacred that isn’t chanting but still mystical.
The liturgical style of Pope Francis has to do with his choice for a very hard ascetic lifestyle. I belive he is not against solemnity and beauty in liturgy or at the churches, but he is a very coherent person. So he decided to continuing living his ascetic lifestyle as Pope too. I think that’s beautiful, but we can understand that doesn’t mean a denying of the beauty and solemnity in sacred art and holy liturgy. I’m sorry for being so repetitive. I know some times that can be a little annoying, but I think a certain repetiton helps to make more clear the thoughts.
I liked watching this video. This Abbot say interesting things, but I think he was a kind of unfair when he said Benedict XVI has a nostalgy of the past and he would be trying to build a archeological model of liturgy. I found that opinion was unfair for many reasons. I’m going to mention some of then. Pope Beneditc used to pray his public masses as Pontifice in vernacular language and why that he was very criticized by the tradicionalist. (And even in private we haven’ Benedict XVI wasn’t a nostalgist for the past. He was just trying to bring back good things of the liturgy that had been forgotten.
About Pope Francis, he has a clearly different liturgical style (his style is very common in Latin America. When I see his masses I feel as if I stayed in my parish.) But he is not against the tradicional liturgy. So that he decided to have Mons. Guido Marine as his liturgical master of cerimonies.
Just for finishing my thoughts.
And also Pope Francis is not against the Tridentine Rite. I saw in somewhere, I don’t remember exactly where, Pope Francis said he is keeping his liturgical style as a personal coherence, because he said everyone who had known him in Buenos Aires would mock of him if they see him praying the mass in other style that he used to celebrate the mass. And he wants to be coherent with hilmself.
P.S.: If Fr. Angelo allows me, I would like to share an review very interesting about the holy comunion. I think it expresses very well the teachings of the Church. I thinking of “Review of Dominus Est by Manfred Hauke”
I liked the video and what the Abbot had to say about the two Popes. I wish that what these two Popes teach and promote would trickle down to the parish church. As far as Pope Benedict promoting Art and music in the liturgy or churches, I haven’t seen any influence of this. The churches in my area lack art and the music
is, well how can I put this, childish and immature. Now that Pope Benedict is no longer Pope I wonder if art and music will still be important. I have been to every Catholicin my area and the atmosphere on the church is the same. They do not promote the sacred and
I have a very hard time attending
The shepherds went to adore Jesus in a cave. Nothing there to feed the senses but Jesus and His Most Holy Mother.
God blessed Holy Mother Church with two forms of the Mass, just as He has given us two lungs…we need them both to be ‘healthy’.
Ave Maria!
One more time I agree with John. I would like that in my parish the sacred art and the sacred music, like Gregorian chant, might be present. In my city, popular sacred songs are very dominant, but they aren’t so beautiful as the Gregoriant chant! We can’t deny that the beauty of liturgy is a strong help for elevate our spirit to God. That Abbot, if I’m not wrong, he is a Cistercian monk, he is from the Cistercian Order. The Cistercian like the simplicity in their liturgy, different the Benedictines monk that like a liturgy more solemn.
It is all about the right atmosphere. We don’t have to go back
to the Middle Ages to create a sacred place but we can learn
from the past and adapt it to our times. I really don’t know how to
discribe the sacred places we call churches today. I’m not the only
one to say this. I hear it from others too. I know that the church is
the people and maybe I am wrong about atmophere but I don’t feel that
I am. I can be walking in the woods and feel that I am in the presence
of the Divine. I can sit in my living room and feel the Divine but when
I go to the churches of today I don’t feel the Divine. There is nothing
to make a person who enters this “sacred place”, to be humble and know they
are in God’s presence. Maybe I am old fashion. I love the chants but there
is a way to make music sacred that isn’t chanting but still mystical.
The liturgical style of Pope Francis has to do with his choice for a very hard ascetic lifestyle. I belive he is not against solemnity and beauty in liturgy or at the churches, but he is a very coherent person. So he decided to continuing living his ascetic lifestyle as Pope too. I think that’s beautiful, but we can understand that doesn’t mean a denying of the beauty and solemnity in sacred art and holy liturgy. I’m sorry for being so repetitive. I know some times that can be a little annoying, but I think a certain repetiton helps to make more clear the thoughts.
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